Xbox360 Hitachi/brännare/Media

[mikael.beck]

Okej
Det var Pioneerbrännaren som jag varit mest inne på att köpa men sen läste jag att några haft problem och så börjar man tvivla.
Ska man bränna i hastighet 1x och hur lång tid tar det då?
Man måste stänga ner alla andra program under bränningen även om man har en riktigt bra dator med mycket RAM-minne?

Tack för svaret föresten

[Postal]

Okej
Det var Pioneerbrännaren som jag varit mest inne på att köpa men sen läste jag att några haft problem och så börjar man tvivla.
Ska man bränna i hastighet 1x och hur lång tid tar det då?
Man måste stänga ner alla andra program under bränningen även om man har en riktigt bra dator med mycket RAM-minne?

Tack för svaret föresten

Jag bränner i 2,4 x hastighet på verbatim skivor som har max hastighet 2,4 man behöver inte bränna snabber tycker jag 2,4 funkar perfect. jag stänger av dom programen för att jag läst att det recommenderas i nån nfo fil.
du gör som du vill behöver ju inte spela oblivion med allt på i bakgrunden iaf
bränningen tar mellan 35-45 minuter.

brännt över 25 skivor 1 blev fell och det var för att det troligen var fabrikatsfell på skivan för den såg väldigt konstig ut på undersidan

[mikael.beck]

Tack för svar Då får det bli en Pioneer
Får man fråga om det var egna skivor du brännt eller om det var torrents?

[hassehell]

Jag har både Pioneer 111d och liteon och jag skulle råda dig utan tvivel att satsa på LiteOn brännaren. Jag köpte först Pioneer efter att läst runt på olika forum. Med den har jag lyckats bränna 3 fungerande backuper och misslyckats med ca 8 st. Pioneer brännaren verkar vara extremt känslig för bakomliggande program som pyr i bakgrunden. Tröttnade på att bränna sönder skivor och gick och köpte en LiteOn på Elgiganten. Har faktiskt inte misslyckats med en enda bränning sedan dess, och den verkar inte vara känslig för att det ligger program i bakgrunden.
Men uppenbart så verkar även Pioneer funka för många andra. Är du intresserad kan du få tjacka min.

[Troca]

uppdatera lite-on brännarens firmware tar 10sekunder och är idiot lätt laddar hem en .exe från liteons hemsida och trycker start och väntar lite så e det klart. som om du tvivlar på liteon för en firmware update så behöver du inte oroadig

[kev0n]

blir väll av att åka å köpa en LiteOn SHW-16H5S på stört då 350kr e ju inte mycket

[k31]

Man behöver inte ens uppdatera firmware:t på liteon SHW-160P6S.. Kör med original firmware, fungerar hur bra som helst.. :-)

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Liteon + Verbatim = 100% Hitiatchi 47DJ

[Berran]

Hej.
Har en Pionner 111dbk brännare i min dator. Någon som vet ifall de fungerar lika bra som vanliga pioneer 111d?

[Hansi]

bk lär väl bara betyda att plasten på fronten är svart? Jag tror inte 360:n bryr sig nämnvärt om det...

[mikael.beck]

Läste att folk har fått den att fungera så det betyder nog som sagt bara frontplasten är svart. Har själv beställt en sådan och hoppas att den funkar för annars blir jag tjurig :P

[pege63]

JA Pioneer DVR-111D / DBK är samma spelare fast svart, kan nämna att D åxå är svart/vit/beige.

Hittade lite intresant läsning anf DBK:

The Pioneer DVR-111DBK is the latest drive to be released after the DVR-110 series. Unfortunately, the supported 16X media list for the DVR-111 series is limited and most of the 16X media is recognized as 12X. A new firmware revision may expand the 16X support list.

The DVR-111DBK is not the fastest drive on the market when it comes to CD reading, supporting up to 40X. As a DVD reader, the drive supports 16X for SL and 12X for DL, something that you can find in any other drive currently on the market. However, you may not find many drives out there, that are able to read DVD-RAM media, which the Pioneer DVR-111DBK supports at the 5X reading speed.

The drive cannot read 90/99 min Audio CDs, but when it came to our DAE quality test, it received a perfect score. Interesting to note, is that despite the fact that the drive uses the NEC chipset, it performed very well in that test, in contrast to NEC drives which usually have problems.

DVD ripping is a strong point of the drive, being the fastest in comparison with the other two latest drives (PX-760A, SHM-165P65) in this department.

Protection schemes are a problem however, the drive failing to bypass even Safedisc v2, which is found on older games. It also failed to rip our key2audio protected disc. So this drive is not the ideal choice for backing up protected discs.

In CD error correction, the drive gave better than average performance, and could have been ranked as very good if not for the less than perfect score with the ABEX TCD-726 test disc. In the CD-Check Audio Test, the DVR-111DBK read up to the fourth track without errors and produced only two audible clicks in the fifth track. Very few drives are capable of playing the fifth track.

The drive also has a good DVD error correction mechanism, reading all our test discs without reporting any errors, despite some speed drops in some cases.

As a CD-R burner, the DVR-111DBK is slow, due to its 40X burning speed. The quality that we saw at that speed and even at lower speeds (32X), could and should be better, since none of the tested media managed to pass the Clover System check.

The strong point of the DVR-111DBK is its writing quality with DVD-/+R media. Most of the tested discs produced excellent quality (low error levels, smooth speed graphs), although most of the 16X certified media was burned at lower speeds. On the other hand, we saw that some of the 8X media was oversped and burned at 12X with good quality. As for any unreadable media or media with high error levels from our LiteOn or Plextor drive tests, these were re-checked with the Almedio AEC-1000 error checker and only Traxdata DVD+R 16X showed up as bad quality.

With DL media, the drive supports 8X for both formats and the best quality was achieved with MKM DVD+R DL 8X. Also, we should mention that Ricoh+R DL 8X media was recognized as 2.4X, while MKM-R 8X at 2X. A new firmware release should fix this by including higher supported burning speeds.

Unfortunately, the drive does not support the booktype change for plus media. However, by default, it sets the DVD+R DL media to DVD-ROM, so you can hopefully achieve the best possible compatibility with any outdated stand alone players. ;-)

One final point, is that we had a problem with the drive which is most probably due to a faulty unit. After burning an initial batch of media, we were unable to perform any more burns and hence were unable to provide any writing strategy graphs. Pioneer will be shipping another unit off to our labs. We should then be able to complete our tests, the results of which will be updated in a follow-up review.

- The Good

* Supports 8X DVD±R DL
* Good DVD error correction
* Supports reading of DVD-RAM media
* Supports overspeeding of 8X media up to 12X
* DVD writing quality with DVD±R

- The Bad

* Cannot create working backups of SafeDisc's most recent versions
* Does not support DVD overburning
* Limited media list for 16XDVD±R media
* Limited media list for 8XDVD±R DL media

- Like To be fixed

* Writing quality for CD-R and DVD+RW media
* More media compatibility through firmware release
* Booktype change for DVD+R/RW media

[pege63]

Motsvarande ang Pioneer DVR-111 D:

The Pioneer DVR-111 series returns with a better firmware. This newest firmware revision adds new media while improving the writing and reading performance of the drive. But there is still room for improvement. For example, writing quality with +RW media or DVD-R 16X quality could be improved, while also the 16X compatibility list for DVD+R could and should be expanded.

The DVR-111 drive is a good, typical reader with CD media. It can read up to 40X speed all CD-R discs and up to 32X CD-RW media. DVD reading speeds are satisfactory, with the drive being able to read up to 16X pressed SL media and 12X pressed DL media. DVD-RAM is also supported and the drive can read and write DVD-RAM media at a max speed of 5X. In DVD ripping, the DVR-111 did not disappoint us, achieving an excellent speed, being among the fastest on the market.

Protected discs are definitely a problem for the drive, as it also happened with the DVR-111DBK. It did not manage to rip Sony's Key2Audio protected media, although the other two audio protected titles were ripped successfully. Protected games were not successfully ripped, with the drive showing poor capabilities since it was unable to backup even old Safedisc v2 protected discs.

The CD error correction mechanism of the drive is good, where with the CD-Check Audio Test, the DVR-111 read the fourth track without any errors and produced only two audible clicks in the fifth track. In DVD error correction , the drive did not report any errors while reading all our test media at maximum speed, with the only exception of the ABEX TDV-541 test disc, where reading speed fluctuated at the end of the first layer and remained slow during the second layer.

Moving on to burning quality and CD quality in particular, the drive did not manage to produce good quality CD burns, even at low speeds (32X), and according to CDX Clover Systems, none of the five burned media produced a "GOOD" condition.

DVD burning quality has not changed that much from the previous firmware. Even though it has expanded the 16X DVD-R compatibility list, the quality, according to CD-DVD Speed and Plextools at that speed was good to average. DVD+R media at 16X was in an excellent condition, although only three media were burned at that speed. As for unreadable or high error rate media, produced by our LiteOn or Plextor used during the tests, we re-checked them with the Almedio AEC-1000 error checker and none of these errors were reproduced.

DVD±RW quality has not been changed with +RW media producing high error levels and counts. However, DL quality has been fixed and the MKM-R DL 4X, which had high error rates with the DVR-111DBK and fw1.06, now has more satisfactory levels. Unfortunately, 8X DL compatibility has not been fixed yet. We inserted a Ricoh+R DL 8X disc and it was recognized as 2.4X, while MKM-R 8X was recognized as 2X.

Something else that hasn't changed from the Pioneer DVR-111DBK fw.1.06, is the booktype, which by default is set to DVD-ROM and only for DVD+R DL media.

- The Good

* Supports 8X DVD±R DL
* Very good DVD error correction
* Can read & write DVD-RAM media
* Supports overspeeding for 8X media up to 12X
* Can measure the writing quality on media
* DVD writing quality, especially with DVD+R media

- The Bad

* Cannot create working backups of SafeDisc versions
* Cannot read 90/99 Audio CDs
* Limited overburning for CD format (90mins)
* Does not support DVD overburning
* Limited media list for 16XDVD+R media
* Limited media list for 8XDVD±R DL media

- Like To be fixed

* Writing quality for CD-R, DVD-R@16X and DVD+RW media
* More media compatibility
* Bitsetting for DVD+R and DVD+RW media

[snuttemjuk]

Äntligen!

Hej,

Jag kör följande fungerande konfiguration efter två felbränningar.
Det blev rätt dyrt och märker att jag borde kollat upp grejjor bättre innan...
Nåväl. Kanske hjälper det någon iaf.

-Hitachi XBOX 360 Core (Det som fanns att tillgå när det begav sig)
-NME-360 Team Underdog Chip. (900 SEK. Dyrt, annat Ställe på södermalm.)
-Konverterade Prey från XTreme enligt instruktion.
-Philips SDP6000 Brännare. (699 SEK på Siba.)
-Verbatim Double Layouer DVD+R Photo Printable (40,50 SEK, *********)
-ImgBurn där breakpoint sattes och körde i 2.4X (Free.)

ciao/
O.

[eternalist]

Finns det någon extern brännare som funkar till hitachin? Har bara en laptop utan dvdbrännare:

[Boonz]

köp en pioneer 111D och sätt den i en extern låda, dom finns lite här och var